1988年冬,我任湖南省教育厅长与胡耀邦同志有过一次谈话。当时在谈到农村教育时,我说,上面热衷于加快九年制义务教育进度,下面就报假数字对付检查,可见讲真话也真不容易。还是周小舟同志说过的“上有好者,下必甚焉”。这时,耀邦同志深有感慨地说,我也讲过违心的话。回顾一生,有 In the winter of 1988, I had a conversation with Comrade Hu Yaobang as director of education in Hunan Province. When talking about rural education at that time, I said that I was keen on accelerating the progress of compulsory education over the nine-year period. I will now deal with the inspection of counterfeit figures. This shows that it is not easy to tell the truth. Or Zhou Zhou comrades said that “there are good people, under will be very Yan.” At this moment, Comrade Hu Yaobang said with deep feeling that I also talked about the contrary words. Looking back, there is