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马克思和恩格斯关于生产力与生产关系、经济基础与上层建筑的关系的论述,在马克思主义思想史上有过多次争论。中国人民大学孟捷教授在其新著《历史唯物论与马克思主义经济学》中,结合当代中国制度变迁,对历史唯物主义这一核心观点作出了新的理解,在学术界引起不少反响。西南财经大学赵磊教授也撰写了专业书评,与孟捷教授商榷。《天府新论》编辑部于2017年6月9日邀请孟捷教授和赵磊教授在成都对话,围绕生产力一元决定论、上层建筑的反作用、历史发展的直接动因、中国当代制度变迁的唯物论解释、历史唯物主义的本体论和实践范畴的解读等核心论题展开了深入探讨。孟捷教授与赵磊教授从历史回顾到现实关注,从对具体案例的讨论到对本体论的思考,无论讨论的主题还是在讨论中发表的许多观点,都具有相当程度的创新意义。本刊辑录了对话的部分精彩内容以飨读者。文字已经发言者审订。
Marx and Engels on the relationship between productive forces and production relations, economic foundation and the superstructure exposition, in the history of Marxism there have been many controversies. In his new book Historical Materialism and Marxist Economics, Professor Meng Jie of Renmin University of China has made a new understanding of the core materialism of historical materialism in light of the changes in contemporary Chinese institutions and caused many repercussions in academia. Professor Zhao Lei from Southwestern University of Finance and Economics also wrote a professional book review to discuss with Professor Meng Jie. On June 9, 2017, the editorial department of “New Ideas on Tianfu” invited Professor Meng Jie and Professor Zhao Lei to hold a dialogue in Chengdu focusing on the unification of determinants of productive forces, the reaction of superstructures, the direct motive of historical development, and the materialist explanation of the changes in contemporary Chinese institutions , The ontology of historical materialism and the interpretation of practical aspects and other core topics were discussed in depth. Professor Meng Jie and Professor Zhao Lei have made some significant innovations from the historical review to the realistic concern. From the discussion of specific cases to the consideration of ontology, no matter the topic of discussion or many opinions published in the discussion, there is a considerable degree of innovation. This magazine has recorded part of the wonderful dialogue to readers. Text has been validated by the speaker.